Our Philippine House Project – Ceiling Support System and Ceilings

Our Philippine Residence Challenge – Ceiling Support Program and Ceilings

Ceiling Help Program

Our ceilings will be about 30cm (1′) beneath the leading of our walls and 3.1m (10′) above the concluded floors.  We needed substantial ceilings since we hope that the hot air will rise previously mentioned us but also mainly because it tends to make our modest rooms experience extra roomy.  Changing lightbulbs will be a obstacle!

Generally Philippine ceilings are maritime plywood or one of the cement board items this kind of as Hardiflex.  The value is about the exact same.  There are plusses and minuses for both equally.  Termites and rot don’t attack cement board but the cement board is more influenced by roof leaks.  Originally we were being heading to use Hardiflex but we determined to use plywood rather.  Like gypsum board, cement board is a thoroughly uniform substance.  Plywood has some texture, some trace of at the time being a normal merchandise.  We just like the appear of plywood ceiling far better.

Ceilings can be supported by picket joists or a person of lots of suspended ceiling methods.  We resolved to use 1 1/2″ x 1 1/2″ 2.5mm metal angle bar as our key ceiling assistance process.  This determination was a bit irrational, but not completely.  We have good welders.  Decent wood is high-priced.  We paid P375 for 6M lengths of the angle bar.  We painted the metal with epoxy primer but then wooden is generally dealt with with a preservative.

The standard lightweight suspended ceiling methods just seemed as well flimsy.  As can be noticed in the picture, our ceiling procedure is solid more than enough to wander on.  Our roof is superior earlier mentioned the ceiling, three meters increased at the heart, so the probability of attic storage is serious.  Anyway the angle bar system seemed significant and affordable so which is what we’ve carried out.

Initial, angle bar is bolted all around the perimeter of the space at the ceiling height.  These are bolted to the hollow block wall employing 3/8″ lag screws and direct expansion bolts.  A 60cm (2′) x 120cm grid of angle bar is welded to these supports.  The 120cm span is break up applying 1″ flat bar.  The angle bar crossing the middle of the room is heavier (2″ x 2″ x 3mm) to support the significant Hunter ceiling enthusiast.  Supports utilizing scrap material increase from the ceiling angle bar to the metal roof rafters, further producing the ceiling construction potent.

I have to disclose that our engineer has told us that this full technique is ridiculously overbuilt and wasteful, as are so lots of factors in our residence.

Each 60 x 120cm plywood panel will have a bevel at the edge.  The holes for recessed pin lighting will be minimize just before the plywood is put in.  The plywood will be connected to the angle bar making use of pop rivets recessed into the plywood.  The recesses will be stuffed and the ceiling painted.  A crown molding will cover the joint in between the plywood and the wall.  These are all very normal ceiling facts on modest Philippine homes.  We locate this grid-sample ceiling to be desirable.  Fancier Philippine houses go in for all types of about-the-prime ceiling elaborations, the far more elaborate the improved.

We’re building a dwelling in the Philippines.  Here’s how we’ll be setting up our ceilings.

Our ceilings will be about 30cm (1′) underneath the leading of our walls and 3.1m (10′) over the finished floors.  We desired substantial ceilings since we hope that the warm air will rise previously mentioned us but also for the reason that it will make our modest rooms sense more spacious.  Changing lightbulbs will be a challenge!

Commonly Philippine ceilings are marine plywood or just one of the cement board items such as Hardiflex.  The cost is about the very same. There are plusses and minuses for both equally.  Termites and rot really do not attack cement board but the cement board is said to be more impacted by roof leaks.  Originally we made the decision to use marine plywood.  Cement board is a completely uniform materials.  Plywood has some texture, some hint of after remaining a organic merchandise.  We  like the seem of plywood ceiling improved but, based mostly on feedback we have obtained (see under) on this web site, we’ve made the decision to use 4.5mm Hardiflex.

Ceilings can be supported by picket joists or a person of a lot of suspended ceiling systems.  We decided to use 1 1/2″ x 1 1/2″ 2.5mm steel angle bar as our main ceiling guidance system.  This determination was a little bit irrational, but not absolutely.  We have good welders.  Decent wood is highly-priced, additional highly-priced than steel.  We paid out P375 for 6M lengths of the angle bar.  We painted the metal with epoxy primer, but then wooden is ordinarily dealt with with a preservative.

The usual lightweight suspended ceiling devices just seemed much too flimsy.  As can be noticed in the photo, our ceiling system is powerful ample to walk on, a genuine benefit for storage, and repairs and upkeep.  Our roof is superior higher than the ceiling, 3 meters increased at the centre, so the possibility of attic storage is actual.  Anyway the angle bar process seemed significant and economical so which is what we have finished.

Initially, angle bar is bolted all over the perimeter of the place at the ceiling peak.  These are bolted to the hollow block wall utilizing 3/8″ lag screws and direct growth bolts.  A 60cm (2′) x 120cm grid of angle bar is welded to these supports.  The 120cm span is break up utilizing 1″ flat bar.  The angle bar crossing the centre of the space is heavier (2″ x 2″ x 3mm) to help the major Hunter ceiling enthusiast.  Supports working with scrap materials increase from the ceiling angle bar to the metal roof rafters, even more earning the ceiling structure sturdy.

ceiling

Ceiling help composition as observed from a single of the bedrooms.

I have to disclose that our engineer has informed us that this complete program is ridiculously overbuilt and wasteful.

Every single 60 x 120cm panel will have a bevel at the edge.  The holes for recessed pin lights will be minimize right before the Hardiflex is put in.  The Hardiflex will be hooked up to the angle bar working with blind rivets recessed into the Hardiflex.  The recesses will be crammed with auto body filler and the ceiling primed and painted.  A crown molding will address the joint between the Hardiflex and the wall.  These are all pretty common ceiling particulars on modest Philippine homes.  We obtain this grid-pattern ceiling to be a lot more beautiful than a simple flat.  Fancier Philippine homes go in for all sorts of in excess of-the-leading ceiling elaborations, the extra sophisticated the much better.

Riveting Hardiflex panels to steel ceiling structure

Riveting Hardiflex panels to metal ceiling composition

Holes are drilled by way of the Hardiflex, angle bar (1 1/2″ x 1 1/2″ x 2mm) and flat bar and the Hardiflex riveted to the ceiling with 3/16″ blind rivets.  Holes are drilled with Bosch cobalt twist drill bits.  The Hardiflex is abrasive and dulls standard bits virtually immediately.  The cobalt bits need continual sharpening.  The employee sharpen the bits working with a grinding wheel on the 4″ angle grinder.  The workers are putting in the rivets with a Craftsmen riveting device I acquired at Sears a 10 years or two ago and under no circumstances found much too considerably use for.  It genuinely gets a do the job out right here!

The first ceiling being finished

The initial ceiling being completed

The center cutout is for a ceiling lover.  There are 4 other cutouts in this home for recessed lights.  The rivet heads are recessed and crammed with a polyester system filler.  Other finishing is done with the very same style of gypsum joint compound made use of for sheet rock.

Kitchen/Living Room Ceiling

Kitchen/Dwelling Place Ceiling

This shot displays how considerably of the “attic” will be concealed higher than the kitchen-residing room ceiling.  That kitchen area ceiling appears to be small but is about 10′!  About 5,000 3/16 x 5/32″ x 3/4″ blind rivets will be utilized in total to connect the Hardiflex to the angle bar ceiling structure.

Completed ceiling, but no crown molding yet

Finished ceiling, but no crown molding yet

Attic wiring

The ceiling as observed from the attic

In this shot you can see conduit for electrical circuits, cable Television, Internet, embedded in the walls and coming up into the attic. You can also make out how the ceiling structure is bolted to the walls using lead enlargement anchors and lag screws.  Most of the electrical conduit in the attic is versatile fairly than rigid.

Bracket for Hunter ceiling fan bolted to angle bar joists

Bracket for Hunter ceiling fan bolted to angle bar joists

In the over image you can get an plan of our Hardiflex panel joints.  While we bought a manual Hardiflex tungsten carbide scorer, the advised device for chopping the panels, the employees normally made use of the 4″ Makita angle grinder with a diamond masonry cutting blade to slice and bevel the Hardiflex.  This resulted in enormous clouds of dust.

Ceiling fan

Ceiling supporter with extension pipe

We installed further pipe to deliver the lover down from the ceiling, as suggested by Hunter.  Hunter sells extension pipes but we employed everyday galvanized h2o pipe and couplings.  It labored fantastic.

1 1/2" crown molding

1 1/2″ crown molding

You architectural professionals out there.  Is this molding put in upside down?  Finishing of ceiling is with one particular coat of Boysen flat latex and two coats of Boysen gloss latex.